Jerad Finck Podcast Transcript
Jerad Finck joins host Brian Thomas on The Digital Executive Podcast.
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Brian Thomas: Welcome to The Digital Executive today’s guest is Jerad Finck, Jerad Finck, CEO and Founder of Cosmic Wire stands at the forefront of blockchain innovation with over two decades of diverse experience in tech system design, music production, and executive leadership.
As an early participant in Silicon Valley’s tech scene, he honed his cybersecurity and system architecture skills, contributing to major projects for startups and giants like Nokia. Fink transitioned from technology to mental health and provided invaluable case management and counseling services, reflecting his commitment to social responsibility.
This phase of his career underscored his versatility and dedication to making a difference in the lives of those facing socio economic challenges. Musically, Fink has carved out a successful path as an artist known as Blazar. Inheriting a rich family legacy in music, he won VH1’s Song of the Year, leading to multiple Top 40 hits, and partnerships with prominent labels like Warner, ADA, Rock Ridge Music, and Anti Fragile Music through In Grooves Universal.
His extensive collaboration list includes Universal Music Group, Warner Music, and many others, showcasing his artistic versatility. Well, good afternoon, Jared. Welcome to the show.
Jerad Finck: Thanks for having me, Brian. Happy to be here.
Brian Thomas: Awesome, appreciate you making the time and getting on and talk about some exciting things in the Web 3 space.
That’s obviously our publications built on Web 3 as you know, and we like to get into some really cool things. But Jared and just so our audience knows, Jared Finck also known as Blazar is on the show today and we’re excited to have. Very multi-talented CEO artists you name it on the show.
So, Jared, we’re just going to jump right into the question so we can get your story out there. All right. As CEO, can you articulate your overarching vision for Cosmic Wire and how is it driving the emergence of the spatial web? And I’ll specifically add this, what key elements do you believe will revolutionize the digital industry?
And how does Cosmic Wire fit into this narrative?
Jerad Finck: All right. So, a lot to unpack there. The vision for the company, you know, has always just kind of been about a message of empowerment. And unity and raising the floor kind of across the board. I’ve had this vision of, of what we’re calling spatial web, for a long time.
And The technology wasn’t there. We’ve had XR and other kinds of VR and things going around, for quite some time now, but there’s always been a ceiling of compute and that’s, basically, bandwidth via cloud storage, as opposed to or juxtaposed to, just the sheer size of these files, especially with OBJ and FBX files or Unreal and Unity scenes and kind of all of the immersive stuff that That we’re doing.
A lot of it is pretty landlocked, against GPUs and RAM and hardware devices, gaming PCs, consoles, even the headsets, they basically have Functioning console inside of them for lack of better and I’ve always viewed, I think the metaverse is kind of a misnomer. I think we’ve been in the metaverse the whole time, basically it’s what we’re doing now, zoom, Facebook, twitter, snapchat, YouTube, TikTok Shopify, all those things are like, we kind of live in this virtual environment already.
I mean, everyone lives in their phone, everyone’s on all these social networks, we have entire lives that are. Dedicated to these systems. The difference now is I think web three And the way that I I saw it when I when I really first started kind of putting this all together is almost like the coming of the original promise of the internet and where we’re connecting this kind of like super widgetized and individuated System into an interlocked system, which was what the internet was originally supposed to be It was supposed to bring people together and create this large Unified kind of ecosystem.
And instead, we kind of turned it into rabbit holes of messaging and click funnels, where we drove people down to try and put them into boxes and containers to monetize and, and, pillage data and, and, and pirate systems and things like that. And, and for me, web three was kind of the antiseptic to that.
And I think that, what we’ve built here at cosmic wire I’ve had a very, very distinct and different vision, excuse me, for crypto and web three since the start, we did. We did a couple drops and participated in a, in a, just a enormous amount of like drops for other people as far as like ad hoc tech and development and marketing.
And that was funding the company alone, but we never, that was never like the vision for the company. I didn’t, I don’t believe in NFTs and like the way that they were marketed or pushed across or cryptocurrency even is, is kind of like the ICO pink stock scam that it turned out to be with all these kind of garbage tokens and systems and passing liquidity through.
Market maker groups that ran through telegram and, guided trading and all the kind of garbage that came across with it. I’ve always looked at Web3 as as ledger and I think that’s a blockchain is I think it’s you know, we’re time stamping data we’re creating immutable containers to Uphold provenance and chain of custody and that can go across all systems.
And what that does is it really creates a transparent System that upholds the validity of the of the transaction. The transaction is any data point that can be a message, a communication, an email, a keystroke, a purchase. It doesn’t matter. It’s behavior that’s being logged into a ledger to just create more superfluous, efficient and.
And transparent and valid business. And, and just the way that we interact with each other. And I think that the upshot of all of this is that we are raising the floor across, across the globe, because we didn’t, we didn’t build this into. Hardware based systems or something that required or necessity or was necessitated by some other kind of device.
Like for, for me, it was always about if you have access to the internet, you can use this technology. And spatial web is the next evolution of the internet just with, a z access for lack of better. I think this whole Web3 is also kind of silly. It’s not like on Thursday in 2007 in September, we went from web one to web two. It’s, it’s not this like on and off switch. It’s, it’s a continual growth in an evolution of technology. And that’s, that’s what’s going on now. And Web3 is just an evolution. That’s, I think, was partly kickstarted by, by the pandemic. Shoving people into these kind of like isolated systems where we’re really starting to just kind of starving for human interaction again.
I mean, I mean, I think Clubhouse was the biggest. Kind of an outlier that popped out of out of this and it always fascinated me because I Remember just watching this whole phenomenon. I was like, why are we talking on walkie talkies again? Like it doesn’t make sense, but then it was kind of the essence behind it I think all of that is is what’s driving this It’s like we invented all this technology to put ourselves back in the room and start talking again we followed like the bubble of narcissism as far as we can and so Cosmic, you know when I was doing this I come heavily out of the music industry and I was working, we’ve been, I’ve been dabbling with like XR for, the last decade plus.
And like I said, there was always that ceiling and that ceiling is compute and file size and bandwidth and thresholds. And I mean, there’s lots of pieces in there. But we, we really had a breakthrough and, and it was based in something really simple and fundamental and compression. And I put together what I thought Were kind of the brightest minds in the world around this concept that I’d been working on a long time and it wasn’t, it wasn’t novel as much as it was disciplined because I think that what has happened is technology has progressed in the capacity that it has with the growth that it has and the acceleration, I mean, our processing speed and our memory and our RAM.
And I mean, it’s, yeah. monstrous compared to like the early 2000s. I mean, the scale at which we’ve grown is, is, is pretty, pretty intense. And with that, I think became, or, or what came out of that was an inherent kind of laziness where people didn’t have to work as hard because they had more room for error, or we didn’t have to push things down as much as we did because there was so much more ceiling inside of these programs.
It’s, I mean, even think, think about your phone and how much memories on that. Compared to like an early 2000s computer, it’s, it’s pretty, there’s a wide gap there. And we really focused on getting back to like fundamental basketball and like, what can we really do? What can we really maximize to get the efficiencies out of this?
And we started really messing in with like kind of surgical compression, as opposed to doing these universal systems where you have a ceiling and a floor and you just sandwich it. I mean, I come out of heavy out of audio engineering and production. So, I’ve always been. In this and it was just taking the same kind of concepts that I’d been doing for years and translating them in into these other methods.
So like we do the normal kind of DCT Draco and, Adobe and all the normal kind of systems that are out there. But we did come up with our own novel system of kind of separating, different bits of file sources and really being surgical with applying different types of compressions at different points inside of a file and wrapping it together and then, and then sandwiching on top of it, kind of doing a more.
More intensive process and then writing algorithms around optimize that process. And what came out of it was we built an engine that has about a 60 to 90 percent optimization on top of all known methods. And we’ve proven this. We’ve gone through audits with some of the toughest infrastructure auditing companies in the world.
We’re in talks with all the major. Companies. It doesn’t matter which one that you can think of all the major cloud providers, all the software, the biggest giants in tech across the board. We’re in deep discussions with all of them because we did something that is truly revolutionary with how we are literally compressing bits.
And so, the idea is that we could use the same infrastructure, but just push different things through it. Here in LA, the joke is everyone calls us Pied Piper. If you’ve seen Silicon Valley on HBO, it’s pretty true. I mean, that’s really what we built all this stuff around. And then once we, we built that because the key concept that I wanted to do is, not only make this stuff usable and manageable, but also keep it in its native format.
So you don’t have a Kodak, you’re not unwrapping it. You’re not using WinZip or something like that. Like this is just a straight up pipeline tool that will allow these, these things to, to happen because we actually have the bandwidth now, if we can make the file size small enough to get underneath, a threshold that we can do this stuff in real time.
And that was, that was the whole kind of thesis. If we just kept hammering away at this set that we could do. And we, and we did, we cracked it. We’re, we are absolutely able now to run and live stream full UE5 scenes, unity scenes. We’re doing real time volumetric holograms. I mean, and these things are massive.
We’re reducing UE5 scenes that are four and a half to five gigs to down to 20 I know it sounds insane and not real, but it’s absolutely real. We’re at market. All this stuff is launching now. Volumetric holograms. These files are enormous. And we’re able to live stream them now. And insane fidelity.
I mean, this is four K and eight K files that were decimating in real time and streaming, over basically a three G signal. I mean, we’re if you have our ceiling, our goal is to keep everything to be able to run under two megs a second. And we’ve I mean, we’re, we’re sending some of the stuff at 20 KB now, which is just an enormous optimization.
And so that was, that was really the thing for us is to be able to create this, this thing, because just like in the early two thousands my, my first kind of tech gig is, was in Silicon Valley. I was down there and I just graduated from high school and I was paying for college and stuff with working at tech companies and back then you’d go take a proficiency exam because, computers and all this stuff is brand new.
The Internet was like just starting literally in 2000 when I was down there and they’d shove you around, 60 different companies because everyone was just kind of learning and running. Half of them blew up and half of them kept you for a bit, but it really just developed this kind of deep sysadmin skill set.
And that’s what I. Kind of moved forward from all this, but I always was thinking the same way. And it’s, I’m a big gamer, like listening to Nintendo talking about how they wanted to get out of the hardware business and compute. Like this is an ongoing theme. And so, when we crack this, I knew immediately that this would go everywhere because it’s, it’s been the vision of the internet since the start of the internet was to be able to go and, and basically augment reality.
And that’s what I think the metaverse, I think the metaverse is the internet. Like I said, and I think that all these sites are the spatial web and they come together into this large mesh network and we the people, we’re the nodes, we’re the autonomous sovereign nodes on the chain of the internet and all of these blockchains and all these systems are basically highways to go and transact between that.
And so what we were trying to build was a bridge system or a dendrite connection between that and to all these chains to, to glue all this together. Because the idea that you can only use Ford coin and Ford and only Chevy coin and Chevy is ridiculous. Like that’s not how the world works. You still have to be able to exchange chickens for pigs, right?
Picking houses for faucets or whatever, whatever the thing is, like there has to be a method of interchange. And so, all of that together was, was really the thesis of, of making this into a thing because. Just like in the early two thousands, when we were saying you need, your company needs to be an internet company.
If you’re not on the internet now, your company doesn’t exist. And the same thing now is with blockchain and Web3. This is about ledger and automating systems in a transparent way that is immutable, that doesn’t have all of the human error, doesn’t live in databases, and we’re sharding all this data, and we’re providing security in zero trust environments so people can go and communicate with each other inside of these nodes where they control all of their data.
It’s just a complete pushback. Against kind of all of that stuff, but it’s really what I think is the original vision of the Internet being realized today. And so what cosmic wire built and what we’ve been building since the start and now that we’re coming out of stealth, which was what our seed raise was and everything else that we did was we built this entire stack.
And this is from top to bottom from our Kubernetes clusters. That we put to kind of drive the network. We’re not doing multi server instance, instancing or any of this other garbage that doesn’t work. This is true live streaming DSP. We built our own spatial audio engine, our multiplayer, our entire blockchain system.
We have true interchain messaging. We communicate to all chains simultaneously. We’ve bridged over to fiat. We’ve cut interchange deals with all the. Credit card companies through a payment processor so we can superfluously go anywhere, and people aren’t paying any kind of fees to do this. We literally read all chains at the same time and run them into our network that goes into this spatial web, which is an immersive web with, is the access and it’s not.
It’s not a world of like. Games or worlds or avatars, like some of the places will be that, but some of it’s like, just going to the doctor or going to your class or going to the bank or sitting in a room with your friends. And it doesn’t look like an eight-bit pixel. It’s a one-to-one hologram of, of you exactly.
Like you look like this is that ready player one experience that everyone has been waiting for when it’s here, it’s done, like we’re coming out with it. And we don’t own it, right? This isn’t some proprietary system. We built this as the picks and shovels for interoperable technology to allow. Everyone to build on this because that that’s where the magic happens.
The same thing that happened with windows, or dos or Linux or any of those other systems where you build the infrastructure to allow the world to extrapolate and express upon it. And that’s what I think all of this is. And that’s what we’ve been building and driving for. And now we’re here. We have partnered with literally the largest tech companies on the globe and we’re launching in a way that that’s just for me, it’s mind boggling.
From starting this company in my basement to where we are now, and it’s been the most trying hard experience of my life, but also one of the most fulfilling things I’ve ever been a part of, because we really are building something that’s going to demonstrably change. The way things are done, and it’s, it’s amazing to be a part of it.
Brian Thomas: That’s awesome. Thank you for sharing all of that. We get to touch all the points on there, but I really do. Just really inspired by the story. And I’m like you, an enthusiast in this space. I’ve been a technologist for many years and I’m heads down. Full on into this immersive blockchain industry 4.0 and I want to do it for the right reasons. As you said, give the power back to the people. Let’s, let’s open it up so everybody can explore their full, full potential and not be locked down by big corporations and specific proprietary boxes, as you mentioned earlier. So, thank you again.
And Jared jumping into this next. Question here. If you could bear with me, I’m going to take this one piece at a time, but from a philosophical standpoint, how do you envision the spatial web leading the digital industry into the future? And are there specific principles or ideologies driving this vision and how do they reflect Cosmic Wire’s commitment to innovation?
Jerad Finck: Yeah, I mean, that’s a, that’s a deep one. I think that the main principle that’s driving. Me and driving this company, really came out of the last 15 years of my life, you know Being deep, deep in the music industry. I’ve been a producer, a ghostwriter, an engineer, a mastering engineer, an artist.
I don’t even know how many labels at this point and publishers and really deep in like trademark and copyright law and royalty systems. And the only thing that that taught me was that it’s really broken, and the system is, is broken almost on purpose. There’s all these intermediaries between all of these end points because the system is built to kind of.
Allow this, this, this leaching effect. And, and for me that, that all came to this kind of principle of identity and privacy. And, and I feel like we’ve lost it. I mean, every single system that we go into, it doesn’t matter if you’re Facebook or Instagram, axe or Twitter, whatever we’re calling it these days, it doesn’t matter.
They all have TOSs and they all basically say the same thing, even your Apple device. Like, we all know everything’s listening to us. We’re talking about phishing lures. Both of our phones are going to have phishing ads all over it tomorrow. And, and it’s invasive, right? And, and they put you in these systems where you don’t have a choice.
And, and for me, that was the same way I felt about my IP in the music industry. And when I started really branching out, it was the same thing I was hearing from commodities, and before I was in music, I was, I was in medicine. I was literally finishing up my MS and my going into my residency when I got offered my first deal.
And it’s the same in medicine with HIPAA compliance and the way that insurance companies, pirate data. And it’s the same everywhere. I mean, education, it doesn’t, it doesn’t matter. It’s, it’s just part of our life. And I think that that is the one thing that, that has been the driving force behind this is that, putting the power back to the ownership of our own entity, this is my intellectual property and I learned this in music first because, mechanical sales, CD sales, downloads, all that kind of stuff.
Don’t really exist anymore. It’s not like it was in the 90s or the 70s or, when people were buying records back in the day the lesson that we learned, especially in the last, 10 years was that the music is basically free. And what music is, is a hook to bring the people in to you and you are the commodity, right?
And you are the, you are the sticky thing that gets people attached. And it’s all the expressions of you that they start getting into, right? And if it starts as music, it turns into all of the other things that you do that really gets them into this ecosystem, which then, leads, begs the question, why don’t I own myself?
And I went through this, I was in literally in court cases with fighting for, for my own intellectual property. And, that doesn’t stop in music. It’s literally everywhere. So, the guiding principle is that by doing this correctly we can go and instantiate. A walled garden, that’s a true zero trust.
Like we don’t have access to it. No one has access to it except for the person that is it. Right. And that’s, that’s the key principle here that drives all of us. And by doing this for everybody it allows everyone to monetize, license and control their IP, their entity, their expressions in, in, in all facets, because I think in now and into the future, I think all people are creators, like, it’s not just like people that can play guitar.
It’s not just. People that are painting or writing books. It’s like, I mean, if you go on Instagram, it’s people talking about how they garden or how they eat their oatmeal in the morning or telling jokes or, building stuff out of whatever. Its just people build communities because the one thing that, that we’ve learned from social networks and the internet is that there’s really groups and niches and communities around all the things, because we all kind of share this human experience together.
And all these companies are just raping and pillaging, everyone across the board with this, this kind of concept. And so that’s the guiding principle between what we’re doing is we’re really changing the monetization of how we are interacting with. The world, and it puts us in control, like we can still do the same thing, only now we’re going to license, to Facebook or license to these other platforms and they can compensate back if we want to share that data, or we choose not to, you don’t have to participate, right, to go and play with everyone else.
It’s, it’s, it’s changing the, the dynamic, but we’re doing it in like a free and open way. And it’s, it’s just taken off, like in a way that’s really hard to understand.
Brian Thomas: Thank you again, Jared. I appreciate the enthusiasm behind what you’re doing. Again, love to have excited entrepreneurs on the podcast, but having people that are that enthusiastic about what they’re trying to do to help the world be a better place is really.
Where I get excited, and we can absolutely hear it in your voice. And so thank you for sharing all that really do appreciate it. And Jared jumping in here to our last kind of question here. If you could bear with me in the context of creating global digital efficiencies. Could you elaborate on the specific technological aspects or solutions that Cosmic Wire aims to introduce via Spatial Web and the various Cosmic Wire technologies and services, and then maybe the impact it might have on industries worldwide?
Jerad Finck: Yeah, great question. So, like I said at the start, we built out the, the stack to make this all accessible. This all sounds like word salad, unless you can show people how it works. And so, the next stage of this was going to find use cases across the board and all the extrapolations. And the way I try to describe it to people is, we built a hammer, a wrench and a screwdriver, and you can build a lot of stuff.
And that’s, that’s the way that I look at what we put together. And so, originally, I was doing immersive recording sessions and like fan groupings and we were live streaming and do all that kind of stuff, but it just went everywhere. So one example of that is now we are in global commodities.
I’ve never, this has been baptism by fire in my life. I mean, we’re doing massive government to government trades of these large commodities. In the. Tune of hundreds of millions of dollars at a time, just, just insanely huge transactions and transactions and how this technology fix that.
I mean, when we, when we first went in with one of our larger clients and they do about 200 to 300 billion a year in sugar sales, it’s just an enormous number. And we were going through like their entire business and slippage. And they told me like slippage and commodities is between 10 and 20%. And they accept that it’s just built into them, like the network of how it works.
And so when you start doing the math, like, okay, so you’re doing, between 30 and 60 billion a year in slippage. And that’s acceptable. And, and that just comes from. Databases being hacked and re-purposement of documents and commodities that you SPLC, which are these standby letters of credit that all the government’s lean against because these commodity trades are so big when you’re like doing sugar from Mexico to China and they have to do these massive transits.
And so all those documents that get hacked and they get repurposed, they change finance numbers or routing numbers all the little ports along the way, there’s like skimming and slippage the proof of product process and the proof of finance all of that takes time because they’re still doing, like, have to do these documents back and forth and the whole packet has to go back and forth and sometimes people are in different languages, so there’s tons of cultural business issues that goes on in there.
And then on top of that, there’s just the normal things like humidity and degradation and all of this stuff, because this process is so elongated and so archaic, it’s like ads accumulates into this large kind of like loss that’s just built into the business. And this isn’t just in commodities.
It’s, it was in, it’s in medical, it’s in like the military, it’s in inventory, it’s in shipping. It’s, it’s. Everywhere, right? And that’s just by proxy of how the system was set up. And so, the first thing we did, with our identity, like to get an identity inside of this, you go through this KYC, KYB, AML that we set to a SOC 2 compliance, the same as like JPMorgan or FinTech applications.
You come in, you have this soul bound identity that, that can never be reconstructed because we immediately destroy one of the keys. That’s why it’s a true zero trust environment. It cannot be reconstituted. Everyone that’s that is inside of that localized environment or that business environment has gone through the same stringent standards that can’t be accessed and can’t be repurposed.
So, you know that the person you’re dealing with this has the same, efficacy is you and they’re real. You don’t have to go. You don’t even have to know who they are. It’s true zero trust business. Putting all of those systems on ledger. We put RFIDs and NFC chips that are linked into blockchain that it gets scanned by SGS.
And then they update the tracking in real time along the commodity that gets put into the dynamic smart contract. That’s a multi sig from both partners, every single process along the way, all of the documents that they have to do, the Fido sanitary reports, the weighing, the grading, the bill of lading, all of that kind of stuff.
We turned and put those into wrapped assets that could again, only be accessed when these two keys come together, which are the buyer and seller, this entire process. We put into an entire blockchain automated process, and we just did a transfer with a group out of Canada. That’s with the Canadian government and it was a three-to-six-month process.
We did it in 32 minutes and we recorded the whole thing, and it was the first end to end full commodity KYC, KYB, money transfer, paymaster, the entire system all ran on chain. We did it all with burner tokens. It didn’t cost anything because the tokens are just used to mint the ledger. Like, we don’t actually use cryptocurrency because I don’t think that that’s what this is.
Like I said, I think it’s about ledger and systems and efficiencies and that was just one of them. When I started coming into this, we were building DRMs, I was putting PRO information, author and master rights into the NFTs or the, the blockchain ledger system that would represented the song’s royalties.
So, when the DSPs or digital service providers were spinning the tracks, it ran it and then we did automated collection. We’re doing the same thing with HIPAA compliance, we’re working with the military and inventory system, there’s loyalty rewards programs, it’s Delta Miles, its POS systems, I mean, it’s literally just, Automated ledger that we’re plugging in APIs from all these existing systems instead of using JWT tokens and databases, right?
It’s just a complete reformation. What that does is it makes the entire process automated and efficient and transparent and it’s inside of that and it’s all built on that same Preface that every single person that’s in there has gone through the same Process to prove they are who they are and that never stops.
It’s an ongoing thing, right? So, you are absolutely certain that the person you’re talking to is on the other side and we don’t have access to it. The outside world doesn’t have access to it. No one can get into those systems because each one is its own autonomous system. And then we plugged in interchange messaging.
To be able to have all of these nodes go anywhere they want. So, it doesn’t matter where you’re coming from. And we’re still just running ledger along the side. So, if you want to go and trade Bitcoin for ETH and do that and pay gas fees and invest in all that, that’s fine. The ledger still runs alongside it.
It’s parallel paths. They don’t intersect. And that’s, that’s really what this is. So it’s, it’s efficiencies literally everywhere. We’re tied in with infrastructure from compression plans to. Doing entire automated POS systems were plugged into, like I said, commodities to just an absurd amount of systems where we’re in talks with the U.S. Government or in the military to go into their automated systems like large infrastructure partners. It’s really just that, in a nutshell, it’s just automation, efficiency, validity, transparency and then security. And you put all that together and what we’re doing. Is approaching zero like this isn’t the fix this isn’t the end all this isn’t like, now everything is perfect What we can say is it’s demonstrably better than what it was and that’s what technology does is we’re always approaching zero And this is the next leap forward for automation and security and blockchain I think is absolutely the future of how all these systems will work and it doesn’t matter what system it is Because any API any api Be the variable for the dynamic contract that is being manipulated by the system on both sides that creates the multi sig for the entire execution of the transaction, and that’s what we’ve been doing in transaction.
We’re doing everything. Keystrokes, you know what you’re clicking on, how long you’re clicking on it. Every single piece of this is being put into it. So, you get your, get your CSVs for your output of your data. And because this is all just variable based, variable based identities, like from the top down view, we can say, Hey, look at this zip code.
We can see what all of these variables are doing. We have no idea who they are, what data it is. And then the inverse side of it, it allows brand partners and sponsors to come in and say, Hey, Hey, If you would give us some of your privacy, or if you would tell us more about yourself, we’ll compensate you in this way, and we created that entire system, so you can monetize on both sides the user, the entity, the person, right, the citizen, that they get a, they get to control their own destiny, they get to control their assets, it’s more secure, you’re not sitting in a database that’s gonna get hacked next week, like, this is your autonomous, safe, it’s, it’s, it’s you, it’s your entire entity, and it’s, it’s controlled and owned by you, and that’s, That’s, that’s what it is.
Brian Thomas: Absolutely love it. And this is exactly why I started this publication built on the chain, basically to give power back to the people. I want people to understand what we’re building out there and to really. Eliminate again, proprietary systems eliminate, as you say, the extra sludge or slippage that is waste, as I call it in all industries.
And the shipping example was a prime example of that. And there are so many things that we can do with blockchain that are way more efficient that will save people a ton of money and time. But the cool thing about it is the fact that it’s immutable, it’s a permanent register, and it’s something that just can’t be changed.
And that’s really what inspired me, and I love what you’re doing, and I’m going to continue to support, follow you, and push you all over the globe to my global audience. So, Jared, I appreciate you sharing that.
Jerad Finck: I appreciate it too, man. It was great, great being here and it’s, it’s nice to see, see the like-minded community because people are starting to really see what this is and that, I think that’s, that’s exciting.
Like when, when this all started, and we were doing like the first kind of like gatherings, Miami NFT and coin agenda and all that stuff when they really started taking off. There, there weren’t a lot of people that even thought this way, but now there’s definitely like an entire population of people that are seen swimming towards the same island.
And that’s how we know it’s real, right? Because there is this like unified vision and philosophy that’s guiding this. And it’s, it’s pretty amazing to see. This dynamic shift happening in real time and it’s, and we’re in it.
Brian Thomas: Totally agree. Love it. And we’re pushing back because as you know, there’s a lot of stuff going on, you know, in our, at the government level that we don’t all agree with.
And I think that it’s time to give power to the people. It’s, this is the time I see it, Jared. It was such a pleasure having you on today and I look forward to speaking with you real soon.
Jerad Finck: All right, Brian, thank you so much. I appreciate the time and thanks for having me as well.
Brian Thomas: Bye for now.
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